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Challenge #4: Tying Two Tunes Together

July 25, 2016
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Week #4: July 24 – 31, 2016
Challenge #4: Tying Two Tunes Together

By: Emma-Lee

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Final Challenge

Take two songs you’ve worked on in the past (these may be complete songs, or songs that you were never able to quite finish) and marry them; take bits and pieces from two of your incomplete songs to create one whole new song.

Why is this challenge important to the craft of songwriting?

Too often we give up on fragments of songs and ideas and never imagine that these forgotten threads might be spectacular when reinvented with the right lyric or melody from a different fragment. Some of the most interesting compositions come from finding two completely separate songs that end up being perfect for each other.

Challenge tips

  • Try taking the pre-chorus from one unfinished song idea and sing over or lay on top of a totally different existing chord progression. Alter the notes to fit the chords and key but use the same movement in your phrasing.
  • Take the pre-chorus from one idea and see if this works with an existing chorus you have from another song start.
  • Try cherry picking the best melodic moments from a few of your unfinished song starts and creating a whole new song out of them. If you’re working with some recording software, try singing or playing some of the different melodies and then moving them around in different order until you find something that excites you!

Good luck!
Emma – Lee

In order to successfully complete this challenge you are required to: 

1) Write and record a song following the description of the week #4 Challenge
2) Write a blog post about your experience and post this on your own blog
3) Upload your song to SoundCloud or any other MP3 hosting site
4) Post the link to your blog post and the link to your song as a comment reply on this blog post by 11:59pm EST on Sunday July 31, 2016 – extended deadline. (Click on “Leave A Reply” at the bottom of this Challenge post, please put your full name and your email address in the appropriate fields). *

*Please note that the weekly Challenge will always be posted on our blog the Monday following, so if you complete your song before that, please hold on to your submissions until we notify you of the blog post.

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52 Comments leave one →
  1. July 26, 2016 4:31 pm

    Challenge 4 of the 4X4
    I’m off for awhile with no piano or guitar…sad, I know. I wanted to post my final challenge song, “A Million Memories”

    Here’s the Soundcloud link:

    And here’s my blog:
    http://scottanthonyandrews.com/final-4×4-knitting-together-2-songs/

  2. July 27, 2016 11:32 am

    Hi Emma,

    My contribution for this week: “If there’s a reason”

    https://v4.simplesite.com/#/pages/429140105?editmode=true

  3. July 28, 2016 12:06 am

    It’s been great to be part of this year’s challenge! Here’s my final song.

    On Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/graydonjames/each-time-theres-a-headline

    and my blog entry: https://songwritingchallengeblog.wordpress.com/2016/07/28/songwriting-challenge-2016-week-four/

  4. July 28, 2016 3:09 am

    Thank you Emma-Lee! My song “Sacred”
    http://www.lisanicolegrace.com/sacred/

  5. July 29, 2016 12:30 pm

    Last challenge complete… #4 in the can! here is the Blog:
    https://sites.google.com/site/christopherburtonsw/home/s-a-c-summer-songwriting-and-blogging-challenge-report
    Here is the song:

    Enjoy!

  6. July 29, 2016 2:19 pm

    Hi Emma,

    I published my contribution 2 days ago and I don’t see it. I am posting it again:

    https://v4.simplesite.com/#/pages/429140105?editmode=true

  7. arlenepaculan permalink
    July 29, 2016 2:40 pm

    I did it!! I finished the 4×4 challenge! Thank you to SAC and all the amazing challengers for the past 4 weeks. I hope to use these songs in my upcoming shows and recordings.
    ❤ ❤ So much love for everyone who pushed me to write more, SAC, challengers, and all those to participated as well!
    http://arlenepaculan.com/2016/07/29/songwriters-association-of-canada-4×4-songwriting-challenge-week-4/

  8. July 29, 2016 5:59 pm

    So grateful to be able to complete this one. Sometimes the summer causes severe procrastination and distractions. I have loved, loved, loved this experience. I want to thank all those who give encouraging messages. I especially want to thank Dean- so much fun. Here is my song for this week; ‘Roots and Wings’

    And here is my blog. Thanks for this and I look forward to next year.
    https://wordpress.com/post/janswriting.wordpress.com/102

  9. July 29, 2016 7:47 pm

    Here is My Song number 4!

  10. July 30, 2016 8:24 am

    Challenge #4: Tying Two Tunes Together

    SONG: “Noise”

    BLOG: S.A.C. Songwriting Challenge – Week #4: Tying Two Tunes Together (TTTT)

    http://wp.me/p7HOnI-1g

    • Rosanne Baker Thornley permalink
      August 13, 2016 12:55 am

      Smooth – easy going – simple – likeable melody that kept me interested – well sung. I quite like the concept “but when you call to me, everything else is just noise”. It’s been a pleasure Sean – all the best 🙂 RBT

  11. kpcooper2013 permalink
    July 30, 2016 10:56 am

    Here is the Blog entry for ‘Homesteader’s Waltz’, my final entry in the 2016 4 x 4 Challenge.
    http://www.kennethpaulcooper.com/homesteaders-waltz/

    And, here is the Souncloud link:

  12. kpcooper2013 permalink
    July 30, 2016 11:40 am

    Lyrics for Homesteader’s Waltz: Homesteader’s Waltz
     Kenneth P. Cooper 2016

    RED-TAILED HAWK CERULEAN SKY
    OVER PATCHWORK OF GOLD AND GREEN
    STEAM TRUMPET BLOWIN’ THAT LONESOME REFRAIN
    BLOWIN’ THE HOMESTEADER’S WALTZ, BOYS
    BLOWIN’ THE HOMESTEADER’S WALTZ

    SUMMER AUTUMN WINTER AND SPRING
    RAISIN’ CHILDREN AND RAISIN’ GRAIN
    HEAT WAVE OR BLIZZARD THE CHIMERA’S BREATH
    WHISPERS THE HOMESTEADER’S WALTZ, BOYS
    WHISPERS THE HOMESTEADER’S WALTZ

    THEY CAME TO A NEW LAND
    WITH NOTHIN’ BUT PRIDE
    ON SHIPS LIKE THE S.S. MONTNAIRN
    THEY CAME FOR THE PROMISE
    OF RICH FERTILE EARTH
    OH THE LURE OF THE HOMESTEADER’S WALTZ

    STUBBLE JUMPERS SALT OF THE EARTH
    PIONEERS OF THE BROKEN HEART
    RUDDY FACED VESSELS OF SPIRIT AND HOPE
    DANCIN’ THE HOMESTEADER’S WALTZ, BOYS
    DANCIN’ THE HOMESTEADER’S WALTZ

    RED-TAILED HAWK CERULEAN SKY
    OVER PATCHWORK OF GOLD AND GREEN

  13. July 30, 2016 1:53 pm

    Here is my week 4 song “Je T’aime In Montreal” with Blog and Lyrics included in the Soundcloud text. Music/Lyrics by Shira Katz, singer is Shera Shakera. Thank you SAC, Emma-Lee, North Easton, and Roseanne Baker Thornley for inspiration. Thank you to Sonia Watkins for listening to an initial song idea and providing tips on song structure. This new song combined that song idea with other ideas, but I will need to revise it so that it fits into a stronger song structure for the future! Still I think the story and chorus have a solid foundation to build on, thanks to everything I have learned in this challenge. Peace and Love and wishing you love wherever you are, SAC, Je t’aime!

  14. July 30, 2016 1:57 pm

    Here’s my song and blog posting for this week’s challenge:
    – Aaron

    http://zygamatix.tumblr.com/…/14…/love-machine-process-notes

  15. Elly Ball aka Rhyme permalink
    July 30, 2016 2:06 pm

    This last challenge in the S.A.C 4×4 writing challenge brought us back to our roots. I can’t ask for a better way to end this intense and amazing 4 weeks.

    Thank you Emma Lee!

    http://thisiselly.wix.com/thisiselly#!Once-Its-Gone-It-Cant-Be-Found/ccb7c/579ceb5f0cf233f0ee8c4aba

  16. July 30, 2016 4:28 pm

    The song:

  17. July 30, 2016 5:47 pm

    I’ve been to the mountaintop.

    song: https://soundcloud.com/guitarvydas-1/sac-2016-week-4-mountaintop/s-PJHGB

    blog: http://wp.me/p3eGTL-4x

    N.B. I also co-wrote with Kathryn Jean. The song URL will be updated in my blog soon.

  18. July 30, 2016 5:50 pm

    Hi Emma. Thanks for this challenge.

    It was a difficult one for me, but very rewarding in the end (and I got a song out of the deal!). Please find below my song and blog.

    Song: https://soundcloud.com/craigster67/one-step-craig-mcivor

    Blog: http://craigster67.tumblr.com/post/148213925925/sac-4×4-challenge-4

  19. July 31, 2016 10:00 am

    Hi Emma-Lee,
    Here is my soundcloud link to my Challenge IV Song.
    Flesh & Bones

    David

  20. July 31, 2016 11:05 am

    Here it is, my final challenge complete. What a glorious, fun ride. I have so enjoyed writing songs for this month, and listening to all of of yours. You are all so talented, and I have an immense respect for all of you. I chose to meld together two old songs of mine, one about self-realization and self-esteem, and the other about time. In the end, it transformed into a song told from the perspective of an elder to a young person. The elder is reaching the end of their life, and is reminding the younger person that time is precious, and to live your life to it’s fullest. They still have time to do what they want, and to just live. Enjoy, and it was a pleasure to be a part of this experience with all of you 🙂

    https://kimwilliamsmusic.wordpress.com

    Here also is the lyric and my blog for “Time Shadow”.
    “Time Shadow”
    Kim Williams, copyright 2016
    Verse
    The shadow of time waves it’s hand to me
    Whispering words of what’s to be
    Waste nothing, and let it go
    It’s not needed anymore
    Pre-Chorus
    Don’t let them knock you down
    Keep your feet on the ground
    Take off your shoes, feel the sand in your toes
    Go somewhere noone knows
    Chorus
    Your whole life is in front of you
    Dance in the rain, release the pain
    Try something new, and see it through
    Be yourself, don’t be afraid
    Verse
    Sit by my side, and hold my hand
    Remind me of the fun we’ve had
    Carve our names into the tree
    They’ll remain for the world to see
    Pre-Chorus
    Don’t let them knock you down
    Keep your feet on the ground
    Take off your shoes, feel the sand in your toes
    Go somewhere noone knows
    Chorus
    Your whole life is in front of you
    Dance in the rain, release the pain
    Try something new, and see it through
    Be yourself, don’t be afraid
    Bridge
    You’re stronger than you know
    You just need room to grow
    If it’s mean to be it will last
    Any questions you have just ask
    Chorus
    Your whole life is in front of you
    Dance in the rain, release the pain
    Try something new, and see it through
    Be yourself, don’t be afraid
    Be yourself, don’t be afraid

  21. July 31, 2016 5:09 pm

    Hello, Emma-Lee – Here, such as it is… it is. Jennifer
    http://jennifernoble.com/2016/07/31/sac-challenge-week-4-dont-let-them-see-you-cry/

  22. July 31, 2016 6:28 pm

    This is an art song combining two distinct melodies. The idea for the song is based on the science fiction writer Ray Bradbury. .Not really pop. since I tend to write for the theatre..

    • July 31, 2016 8:01 pm

      Thank you Emma-Lee for this challenge..and thank you very much my fellow songwriters for your support. Most of all thank you Rossane-Baker Thornley and North Easton for their great inspiration and honest critique. I look forward to redoing the songs that need work with your recos and meeting you again in the near future.. write on..

      http://rbmartincomposer.wix.com/mysite#!Two-Melodies-Into-One-Song/bmhdq/579e85d40cf218c3f1781309

    • Rosanne Baker Thornley permalink
      August 13, 2016 1:16 am

      Martin, this is very good! From the vocal to the lyric – it’s unique and yes, your musical roots are showing lol. It’s easy to envision the character enveloped in sapphire blue beneath a canopy of stars. Great harmonies btw! One suggestion : use a real child’s voice at the end, which will make a total (total) difference to the final seconds of the song. I’m glad you joined in the challenge, and hope you found the experience beneficial. All the best, and happy writing! RBT

  23. July 31, 2016 6:29 pm
  24. July 31, 2016 7:38 pm

    Finally finished this song which has been parked for more than 3 years. It began from 2 chorus ideas and then became a melodic journey of finding the right chords that would lead back to the hook. I believe there are 16 chords in total. A record, I think, for me.

    These 4 weeks have returned me to songwriting and given me the confidence to create music on demand. I look forward to exploring the new possibilities that await.

    Huge thanks to SAC, our 4 challengers, North Easton, and especially Rosanne Baker Thornley. I appreciate the enormous amount of time she spent listening to each song and providing professional feedback. THANK YOU!

    Also, it was delightful to listen to all your songs and to be introduced to some amazing songwriters. I look forward to maybe one day co-writing with you.

    Enjoy the beautiful summer!

    Best,

    ​Sonia (Regal Aliens)

    NOTE: the song and lyrics can be found at my blog and post…

    http://www.regalaliens.com/blog

  25. July 31, 2016 7:48 pm

    Fun ride again folks. My tune ‘The Plan’ here: https://soundcloud.com/heathermeori/the-plan-heather-meori

  26. July 31, 2016 11:35 pm

    Thank you so much for this challenge. I learned a lot about completing songs and finding new ways of creating new ones:)

    BACK TO BEAUTIFUL – https://soundcloud.com/bernadette-saquibal/back-to-beautiful-demo

    BLOG – https://bernadettesaquibal.wordpress.com/2016/08/01/back-to-the-beginning-and-yet-its-the-end/

  27. July 31, 2016 11:51 pm

    Thanks for the challenge!
    Blog: http://kristentclark2016swc.boards.net/thread/5/week-4
    Song:

  28. Louise MacDougall permalink
    July 31, 2016 11:52 pm

    And old fashioned folk song created from combining unfinished fragments of other songs. Nice easy listening background music on repeat 🙂

    • Louise MacDougall permalink
      July 31, 2016 11:53 pm

      My blog for Week#4

    • Rosanne Baker Thornley permalink
      August 13, 2016 1:35 am

      Very pretty – from the vocal to the guitar part. However the percussion being off beat is extremely distracting and quite honestly the song doesn’t need the part. Lovely lyrics, that have a poetic leaning to them, however, I wouldn’t change a thing as everything supports the perfect ambience for “Abandoned”. Very nicely done 🙂 RBT .

      • Skye Weste permalink
        September 1, 2016 2:26 am

        Just saw your nice comments, Rosanne, and I’m so glad you liked the song. My apologies for rushing to the deadline and not noticing the percussion track wasn’t lined up properly. Here is the corrected version 🙂

  29. July 31, 2016 11:54 pm

    I found myself unexpectedly having to record this very quietly and a cappella (haha). I hope you can make out the melody! Tried to boost the sound as much as I could. https://soundcloud.com/meghanmorrison/only-human

    • July 31, 2016 11:58 pm

      I don’t see my blog post link, so just in case! http://meghanmorrisonmusic.com/news/blog/sac-4×4-songwriting-challenge-2016-week-4

    • Rosanne Baker Thornley permalink
      August 13, 2016 1:49 am

      Very nice. Lovely voice. There are some nice lyrical lines in here that are setting the scene – but not sure if you need V3 which seems to veer off into a dark space I don’t think you need to go to. The chorus could use some rethinking – I feel the first line works, but not the second line, and although “only human’ is your title, not sure if that sentiment is adding much to the song. It seems to move it sideways from what was shaping up to be a nice relationship song. Melodically, very pretty, but could use more variation. But great work. RBT

  30. July 31, 2016 11:55 pm

    Nothing like down to the wire!

    Here’s the blog link:
    http://withaturnofphrase.blogspot.com/2016/07/2016-week-4-ten-plagues-song-combining.html

    And no Soundcloud link this week – sorry – the blog explains why.

    Thanks!

  31. July 31, 2016 11:59 pm

    On my phone due to computer dying.I can’t seem to cut and paste the link so please go to lynnmantle.wordpress.com and see most recent blog. Sorry

  32. August 1, 2016 12:33 am

    Late (again) this week but the song is done and that’s what counts. Here’s the link to my blog and the song. (Selkirk Range is SAC member Gordon Gow)

    https://selkirkrange.com/2016/07/31/sac-2016-songwriting-challenge-week-4/

  33. August 1, 2016 12:23 pm

    Hi Emma-Lee. I posted this Saturday afternoon, but It’s not showing up, so here it is again.

    Thank you for giving us this challenge. It was difficult, but rewarding, and now I have a finished song!. Here is my submission:

    Also, thanks to North Easton and Rosanne Baker Thornley for your mentoring.

    Song:

    Blog:

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